page 8.5

stories illustrating the "kill insanity complex"
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1.lies

this planet
[back home,] I didn’t know what happened until one sunday morning. I bought the new york times. and there were the Pentagon Papers. I became violently ill. I actually threw up and got a blinding headache, rolling around on the floor. containing communism was only 5 percent of it, generate capital for corporations was 41 percent. I was pledging allegiance to Dow and Monsanto. I was of total insignificance, except to be used. I didn’t want to be part of this planet, this sickness.
the first thing
I’m sorry but I have to tell you the truth. one of the first things you realize is when you get to nam was that you weren’t going to win this war. after the first month, me and everybody else said, “I’m going to put in my twelve months then get the fuck out.”
no secret
every once in a while a bunch of montagnard would get on a plane with some guy in civilian clothes and disappear towards cambodia. it was no secret to us that the US was in there.
all the way
on patrol we traveled stripped, no insignia, no ID, no american anything. the idea is if any of the cambodia [stuff] gets out, it’s all over for Nixon. not just clandestine, but denied all the way to the top.
every organ eaten up
I lost thirty pounds and had a fever of 103. they took out my spleen, my gall bladder and my appendix. I blame it on being sprayed eight or nine times with agent orange. nobody has seen this kind of disease before with every organ eaten up. why should I bee the only one? the VA is fighting me all the way.
I saw it with my own eyes
we had taken twenty two KIA. thirty five feet from my hooch was the graves registration point. I lived with the men who worked there. I watched those twenty two bodies come from the medics to the GR point. the official report of american deaths was only eight. it’s horrible to think about that. that’s just statistics, not even people. I got angry when I realized our casualty reports in the Stars and Stripes (the serviceman’s newspaper) were being falsified. in every case, I knew what the total was, but the numbers were always reported as less. we falsified enemy casualties, why not our own? I don’t believe for a moment that there were only 53,000 casualties. I don’t know how it’s possible to disguise thousands of deaths. I saw it with my own eyes.
because of a joke
I was in john hopkins medical school at the time. [another student had been playing jokes] and I took the arm off his cadaver. this got back to the president of the school, eisenhower’s brother, a real hawk. he told me to take a leave of absence. a week later I had my draft notice. they turned me right in.
a slight confusion
I went down to my draft board originally just for a physical. [we had been cutting up and teasing the female officer when] these big marines come in the door. they said, “all of ya’ll just passed the test. you will be leaving in two days, or you can leave in thirty days if  you join the marine corp.” I was young and stupid, ignorant. we signed up for four years, not thinking if I go with the army, I’ll be going for two. I didn’t get the thirty days anyway.
only 11 percent would see combat
in boot camp we didn’t meet too many patriots. they were schmucks like me, or guys the judge said, “you can go in the army or it’s two years for grand theft auto.” to discourage us from going AWOL, all new draftees were told that only 17 percent of us would actually be going to vietnam, and 11 percent would be combat troops. with only three exceptions, every single one of us went to vietnam.
there’ll be swimming pools
the army told us, “listen, it’s pretty civilized over there. you’ll have swimming pools and snack bars and all like that. you won’t have to run off the plane and form a defensive perimeter around the air base in saigon.” that was after the TET offensive had broken out. people were being blown away at… the base. when I came back from training my girl friend said, “they cut your hair and took your brain too.”
they promised him an easy job
they promised him he would have an easy job, so he signed up again. then they stuck him back with the grunts. his foot was gone and one of his legs. his face was all black and he was screaming, “what about my motorcycle, what about my motorcycle? I’m going home.” he died. just to get even, we beat up a few people.
what the XXX is a vietnam?
after boot camp they sent us to hawaii. after that they told us we were going to okinawa. on ship the captain announced, “your destination is vietnam.” what the XXX is a vietnam? when the ship came in it was dusk, [and we] were on deck watching horror fireworks, artillery.

 2. – atrocity

we’re under heavy contact
these gooks are riding by on a lambretta, like a motor bike but you sit people in the back. it was a baby san and a papa san, I guess, she was maybe about fifteen or sixteen. “we’re going to screw your daughter.” I think she was a virgin. we pulled her pants down and put and put a gun to her head.  guys are taking turns screwing her. all the vietnamese carried this ID card. so we ripped up his ID card. “hey, we got a VC here.” we shot him. we just started pumping rounds into him until the guy just burst open. he didn’t have a face any more. baby san, she was crying, so a guy just put a rifle to her head and pulled the trigger. we started kicking and stomping them. everybody was laughing about it. the captain says, “who’s going to get the ears?” we cut off one of her breasts. the next day we go through a village harassing women and killing guys. we shot him even if there was no VC there. if the people don’t treat you right when you walk through their village, you give them hell. they won’t say nothing to you, but they’re a little cold. as soon as we step outside the village, the captain radios in, “we’re under heavy contact”, and those phantom jets come in and drop 500 pound  bombs. we went on to the next one. we go back to Long Bin. the colonel is there to congratulate us. “you are in for a commendation.”
helicopter ride - SOP
when we had to interrogate some of the prisoners, we’d take them about a thousand feet up in the helicopter. the first one wouldn’t talk. [intelligence] would give you the thumb toward the door, and you’d push the guy out. the next, if this guy would do all the talking, we’d kick him out the door anyway. even the good gook, they throw him out anyway. nobody asks what happened to them.
to play with
one of the first little kids I took care of in vietnam, some GI  gave him a hand grenade to play with. it kind of blew his little body to bits. I don’t feel I should have been subjected to that, how ugly it can be.
some smart guy
they used to clean the floors with kerosene to get the wax off. we had a vietnamese girl on the ward. some smart guy flips a match [and] woosh, she’s gone in a puff of smoke. when we got to her she was 100 percent 2nd and 3rd degree burns, plus she had inhaled a lot of smoke. I went looking for the [doctor.] he was in our library, about the size of a walk in closet, crying his eyes out. "“what am i going to do? she’ll live six weeks and then die horribly."
 his daughter
we’d stand them up against a wall, and put a gun to his head and sa.y, “talk.” or they’d take a man’s wife or daughter and screw his daughter in front of them.
an apple for a nurse
I had a patient who was supposed to be a north virtnamese courier. he tried to kill me. the MPs  took him and came back a few hours later. one said, “come out here. I’ve got something to show you.” they had peeled the guy like an apple.
double veteran
you take a group of men and put them in a place where there are no round eyed women. you’ve got an M-16 and you go to one of the villages and you take what you want. they’d come back a double veteran <raping a woman and then killing her.>
something was wrong with you
I don’t understand why they talk about taking prisoners and stuff. we didn’t go through that nonsense. we used to cut ears off. we had a trophy. if a guy had a necklace of ears, he was a good killer. it was encouraged to cut ears off, to cut the guy’s nose off, the cut the guy’s penis off, a female you cut her breast off. the officers expected you to do it or something was wrong with you. in fact I started to enjoy it. that was the whole thing about vietnam that people fail to understand. you kill a gook, there was nothing to it.
my experience and my class and my education.
“come on back, it’s bell telephone hour.” I was always hiding behind my rank. basically I didn’t want to be bothered. I’d go in there would be some poor old woman or some old guy, some kid even. wrap wires around there pinkies and crank the field telephone, and give him a little taste of it. like putting cans on cat tails. I didn’t know anything about psychology, [but] I’m sure it had tremendous Impact on people. it sure didn’t win us any friends. the misogyny is being denied women, and then having your contact with women in some sort of subjugation position. my experience and my class and my education had insulated me a little bit. now I was pitching in.
I was hot
we were up 100-125 feet in a tower. this fucking tower was really hot. there was a woman bent over in the field, harvesting something. she was obviously not an enemy agent. everybody started taking pot shots at this woman. something came over me. I was pissed. I was hot. I shot at her and she keeled over dead.
it would have been too easy
there was one guy that told me they were searching in this huy and there was a really pretty young girl. he walked over and jammed his hand down her pants and started taking her clothes off. the girl’s mother came in and started raising all kind of hell. I don’t know what I would have done. I don’t think I would have tried to stop it. these are the guys who get in a fire fight with you. it would have been too easy to get blown away.
standard operating procedure
I was enjoying the feel. we didn’t have to salute nobody. we dressed the way we wanted to dress. an officer knows that if he messed with you in the field, in a fire fight you could shoot him in the head. that was standard operating procedure in any infantry unit. anybody who tells you different, he’s shitting you. if you mess with my partner, in the unwritten code there, I had the right to blow your brains out. I had a sense of power, of destruction. in the united states a person is babied. you had the power to rape a woman and nobody could say nothing to you.
we let the general land
we were out, really out. we used to be visited by a general once a month. I would send my men out to shoot at his helicopter. one time we heard UPI and CBS was going to be with him so we let him land. [we] sewed the ears back on up side down.
I couldn’t believe my good fortune
any time anybody went to the rear, they brought back smoke. [ortega got busted] and he turned in everybody’s name. they kept putting him in different camps. wherever he went, guys wanted to beat the shit out of him. they had to keep him under guard in the sergeant’s shack. he got bit by a rabid rat. you’re not supposed to drink when you’re undergoing treatments. being the chicano juicer he was, he really boozed it up. he went into a frenzy and they had to tie him down. I couldn’t believe my good fortune. we got some gasoline, and somebody hit the first sergeant over the head. somebody poured the gasoline over him and I threw the match.
no business
since we were so far up north, ya’’ll could shoot any and all people ya’ll found. they were enemy or they had no business being up there.
they grinned from ear to ear
we did a mission where we wiped out a whole twn. we herded all the people together, maybe sixty seven people, we burned their homes to the ground. the guy on the radio said, “waste everybody you got.” I was not going to kill these people. I had a couple of guys who really enjoyed killing quite a bit. they couldn’t wait. they grinned from ear to ear. they had them lie down, then they wasted them, women, men, children. next week the newspapers said the north vietnamese did it. with some of the things we were doing, I started to get really bad feelings, not morality, just fucking bad feelings.
snake
they had this old crazy dude [in the village,] sort of a town idiot. the VC hired him to come in and fuck with our lines one night and I shot his ass.  the people hated me after that. all the mama sans would yell at me. I’d get a couple of them cornered up against a hooch and I’d say, ”what did you say?” I used to love to fuck with those assholes. we had this one guy who would go out and shoot people, then yell, “snake!” we’d come across this old papa san dying in the hooch, with mama san leaning over him. he pulls out his 45 and blows the fucker’s brains out, then say, “I was just helping the fucker out.” then he turns and shoots this mother and her baby. he steps outside and says, “snake.” what happens in the field, stays in the field.
the CO said… / some other company
I got close to being court marshaled for killing some kids. headquarters said there was a sniper in this village. we burned all the rice. it was dark and I thought the kids had rifles. I beat up this old man [who] was giving me a hard time. I was getting ready to shoot him when someone told me he was the village chief. the whole squad had to write up a statement. the CO says, “they had all better coincide.” so we all get together and make up the same story. we had brought back  a couple prisoners. the CO said, “dead men tell no tales. next time, remember.” then some other company attacks a church full of people, killed them and burned the church down. the CO says, “they’ll forget about you now.”
ice cream run.
we were riding in a jeep and the driver said, “will anyone bet me I won’t hit that old woman?” he just turned the wheel and broke her hip. the officer decided to call a medivac. I’ve seen sanitation men handle garbage more delicately.  it seems we interrupted their ice cream run. she was just another gook.
mow people down
the commander would tell us, “look, we haven’t had many kills in a long time. so let’s go down to the village and shoot somebody and drag the body back.” some of the guys would just go down to the village and mow people down, including women and children. calley mowed down all those old women and children.
eighteen and his picture book kept getting bigger and bigger
“hey, lieutenant, you want to see my pictures?” I knew from the start that we would get around to the atrocity part. it happened every time. if I was in a field unit and my best friend was peeled and has his penis cut off and stuck in his mouth, I might do the same thing if I ran across a gook, [he goes on] “we ran across some NVA.” there was a girl who was probably a nurse. someone would have stuck a grenade up her rectum. then he’d get around to the fact that he was the one that had done it. he’d put his stuff away and go down to the latrine. I’d find him down there, lots of times with the needle still in his arm. I remember one kid who was eighteen. his picture book kept getting bigger and bigger.
a nice little piece
the first day on rat patrol, [with] a nice little piece of fire power on [this] jeep, we get sniped at. we look and there’s a village. the corporal said, “to hell with it, open up.” two other rat patrol jeeps heard and they pulled up, shooting the hell out of this village. we got back and all hell broke loose on us.
God
our gun ship was a UH-1C Bell helicopter. one night we get a call. a whole area was in a firefight. that night you could see the gun ships firing, but even more was coming from back up. finally dawn came and the battle broke off. there were literally hundreds and hundreds of fleeing vietnamese, leaving in boats, slogging, everything. I don’t know if they ran out of ammunition or what. it turned out tobe a turkey shoot. hundreds of people were being mowed down, bodies were floating in the water. blood lust. I can’t think of a better way to describe it. I remember thinking this insane thought, that I am god. you begin to understand how genocide takes place. I could appreciate at that point that you can take anyone and turn him into a whole sale killer.
God?
I loved to just sit in a ditch and watch people die, sitting back with my hot chocolate. like the first time I seen a guys guts. you can help yourself to a handful, wash them off, and keep them. there was something about sticking my hand in warm blood that I used to love. the attitude you pick up is, “oh shit, dime a dozen.” [this guy] was on vacation and he drowned. i’d forgotten you still had to contend with god. that scared the shit out of me.
everything they had
I blew up a village one time, outside of which my squad got ambushed. all the people were gone. we got in line and shot the shit out of the livestock.
a bet
I made a bet with a friend of mine that I could sink a sampan with a rock. the chopper pilot hovered overhead. I had a good eight or ten pound rock. the boat sank, little guys cursing and swimming.
glass
I know that some of the whores would put glass up their vagina and other ones were infected with a strain of syphilis that was virulent.
suddenly that’s exactly what we were
pilots came down from LZE English and they wanted nurses to come over for a party. the guys put on a n incredible feed for us. I had to make a pit stop, so I was looking for a place to go to the bathroom. I stumbled into a room full of mattresses, wall to wall. I thought, “oh-oh, I gotta warn the girls.” the guys were furious. I didn’t think we would make it out alive. the Gis called the nurses rounded-eyed tail, and suddenly that’s exactly what we were. this was the enemy camp. they refused to take us home.
no one controlled him
there was one guy in particular who was the archetypal soldier of fortune. no one controlled him, and he had no control over himself. he actually had a tremendous amount of charm, but beneath was a shark’s conscious operating all the time.
national defense
when you don’t expect to get mercy, you’re reluctant to show it. so you really breed hideous people over there, for

the cause of national defense.

3. – brutality

“we are going to make sure you die.” everybody smiled
I had joined the muslims. “don’t worry,” he said, “once you tell them you’re a muslim you won’t have to go overseas.” from there I went to fort jackson, south carolina. that’s when the crap started for me. a lot of officers was from the south. I feared for my life out on the rifle range. at fort polk, louisiana I was treated like a russian spy. they stood me up in front of the whole company and told everyone what my religion was, saying, “he cannot be trusted, watch your back.” the post commander said, “you’re going to die in vietnam. to hell with this fighting in the streets.” his assistant said, “we are going to make sure you die in vietman.” everybody smiled.
I had a large vocabulary – people didn’t like it
[in boot camp] somebody six-foot-two, 275 pounds, is your new squad leader, no matter how dumb he is. I could speak standard english and had a large vocabulary. that made me an outsider because people didn’t like it. I had this antagonist all the time looking for an opportunity to get at me [to start fistfights.]
a joker
the pilot, a real joker, said, “temperature outside is one hundred and three degrees and ground fire is light to moderate.”
your turn.
they always made us be with the bodies. even if they stink after two days, you wouldn’t even move them. you were always told, “you’ll get your turn to die tomorrow.”
“kick,,,kick…kick...”
they had me moving bodies, VC and NVA. push this body here out of the way. flip a body over. see people’s guts and heads half blown off. I was throwing up all over the place. “what for?” I said. “your going to get used to death before you get in a fire fight and get us all killed.” they’re laughing and joking. next, I had to kick one body on the side of the head till part of his brain started coming out of the other side. “you’re starting to feel what it’s like to kill. the chant started, “kick,,,kick…kick,,,” I’m saying to myself, these guyss are professionals, but they’re crazy.
of course
I have to admit I enjoyed killing. the less of them there were, the better my chances of making it. of course, after a while that was forgotten. there was a certain joy in killing. a guy is dead and just as he is falling, the volume of outgoing fire can pick him up. we would have a contest to see how long we could keep the bodies weaving.
dumb
the routine was bomb-numbing dumb.
worse than death
I would pray for a firefight, just so we could stop walking.
the easy part
killing is the easy part. seeing guys drop all around you of heat stroke, not having food or water, sleeping only three hours a night for weeks on end. that’s what war is.
everybody
his uniform was filthy, with grenades hanging off it, the bandolier, the M-16 strapped to him. everybody i saw at the air base was in a zombie type world.
ten seconds
you had ten seconds to get out of the plane and into the bunker or you were gone,
they
there’s nothing like a confirmed kill. it’s thrilling, beyond drugs. they make you crazy. you want more. everyone back at battalion will look at you with envy. you know it’s going to be the same tomorrow as it is today, only maybe worse.
more or less
this one lieutenant froze in battle one day, [later] he more or less snapped out of it. they sent him back to base camp with extreme exhaustion. [but now] he always wore his helmet. he had his little hut two or three sand bags thick, on top too. he slept on the floor instead of the cot, with his flak jacket on. we got rocketed, and a piece of shrapnel entered his hooch somehow and struck his heart.
never
the kids come out of the ville. you tell them, “didi, didi mao” – get away. they’d swear up and down at you. the war had been going on so long that these kids never had a childhood.
at first
after I realized I couldn’t knock all the bugs off the toilet paper I decided I didn’t need [it.] charlie would drop morters on them, before they got their orders. I was told not to bring anything good because it would just rot away. my first roommate was a red cross director. she was always drinking and taking a drug [meant] for a cardiac condition.[it bothered me at first.]
the change / three days
the change was individual. it was silence. it was reserve. we went into the jungle determined to do what we were trained to do – which was to kill. after about three days, we stopped asking for permission to fire. we would shoot up our radio before we got back to camp.
I knew
I had a little puppy for a while in vietnam. for a period of three days, I would take this little puppy and squeeze it until it would yelp. or twist its little paw. I knew what I was doing. someone or something had to suffer for all the pain I had inside me. I was so horrified I gave the puppy to someone else.
I was a little pissed off
[on R+R in hong kong] the [women] were very expensive, where in taipai you could have bought a girl for a week. i was a little pissed off. then that same night in the fucking rain and mud with leeches and people trying to kill me.
everyone
everyone there had pseudomonas, a bacteria that turns pus green. I took the dressing off his arm and he didn’t have an arm, all there was was bone. he’d lain in a water filled ditch for two days and the maggots are probably what saved him. he was out of his mind with fever.
why?
up in Khe Sanh, a guy told us how to sleep. you have to tuck your blanket all around you, even your face and feet. I said, “why?” he replied, “the rats we have would eat any cat and give most dogs a hell of a way to go.” [that night] something jumped on me and was walking. it felt huge.  suddenly this guy is yelling at the top of his lungs. flares are shooting up. he had a hunk of meat out of his face.
bad
if the world could only see me now. I am bad. if I could get back to the states, somebody fuck with me, just somebody fuck with me. [but] when they come to get you, I’m warbling like a kid going through puberty.
I wasn’t ready to move.
I’m used to the pogues (non-front line personnel) moving because of us. all of a sudden we’re moving. I wasn’t ready to move, but my buddies convinced me. I met the guy called “eighty-eight”, because of the number of men he killed in one day. his unit came to the bar. a lot of them had one long braid down one side, part of their head shaved, or mohawks. it wasn’t even about saying, “we’re bad.” they didn’t even think anyone of anyone else being around. they lay these ears down on the bar and the guy who had the most ears that didn’t match had to buy the rounds the whole night. they were all on their second or third tour. I felt kind of sorry for them. they got there and found out their talent was killing, they liked it. when the war ended, what were they going to do?
ice cream and mud
the choppers took off. in the door was a five gallon carton of ice cream, it fell about fifty feet and we had mud and ice cream all over the place. we just went crazy, scooping up handfuls off the ground, mud and all.
please don’t leave me
I never saw so many guys cry as I did while I was in vietnam. one of the big fears the guys had was of dying alone. they did die, but their buddies stayed with them. “don’t leave me, please don’t leave me.”

the people

real contempt on their faces
the kind of hot that texas is hot, that takes your breath away as you step out of the airplane. “what the hell is the wire mesh for [on the bus windows?] here we are at one of the largest military installations in the world and we have to protect ourselves from little old men. out the window little old men were looking at us with real contempt on their faces. I knew something was wrong.
going on
you be in a fire fight and they’d go on about their business – a woman and a son whipping water over a dyke, old women with 150 pounds of brush across her back. some of these people were beautiful, aristocratic, more civilized than you ever thought of being.
reasonable
the kids in the village would see us coming up the canal [and] they’d jump in front of the boat begging for c-rations. I began to hate them because I couldn’t stand the idea that we were coming into these peoples lives and totally disrupting them. these people wouldn’t care if we were there or viet cong or anybody else. all they wanted was to farm and be reasonable.
came home
I heard this scream, high in volume but like the stuff you use to scream with had been disconnected. the gurgling went on for thirty or forty seconds. the consequences of pulling the trigger came home to me.
one day
I didn’t really speak the language. I could understand a few phrases though. one day during a fire fight, for the first time in my life, I heard the cries of the vietnamese wounded, understood them. when someone gets wounded, they call for their mothers, their wives, their girl friends. there I was listening to the VC cry for the same things. that’s when the futility of the war really dawned on me. I thought, “jesus christ, what a fucking waste this whole war is.”

4. + 5. – incompetence / poor training

quartermaster corps
we took them and laid them on the ground. they call the quarter master corps, who brought these green bags. they didn’t have no doctor pronounce you dead. I believe a lot of guys died in those bags.
fly boys
a lot of helicopter pilots passed out and puked their guts out, and then flew. I knew two nurses who went home hooked on heroin.
high heals and a tight skirt / everybody down low and run
there were only a few of the guys on the plane going for the first time. I had to be dressed in my class A uniform – nylons, high heals and a skirt. no way was I going to get up and walk down that whole aisle to go to the bathroom. the pilot says, “there taking fire [at the field,] everybody down low and run.” I’ve got high heals on and a tight skirt.
blind luck
you can’t believe how smart a man is. if you get one, it’s blind luck. out of the whole time I was out there, we got one kill.
the way I know now
it was a test I wanted to pass, a manhood test. I did not know then the way that I know now how safe my life had been.
then you see it happen
I was a young healthy man. i felt I could kick the world’s ass. then you see it happen and it’s hard to come to grips with. you say, “I don’t want to think about that,” but you’re so tired, you’re mind is weak.
could care less
what do you do if you’ve got 500,000 men? the army’s answer is to collect all the human waste, soak it in fuel oil and set it on fire. from the time you land, the army could care less about you, where you slept, your food, your gear. they just put us in a big lump and said, “don’t go over there.” the officer in charge was shouting, “you all ready to move out? where are your rifles?” “we haven’t been given them yet.” “oh, son of a bitch, that’s right.” at the division there was more of the same confusion. we were always supposed to be here or there but  but none of it was what the guy in charge wanted us to be doing. all of us walked around trying to be real macho, throwing knives into doors. two second lieutenants were playing poker, got drunk, and secided to have a “gunsmoke” shootout in the middle of the company street, and killed each other.I didn’t [want] to carry all that shit on my back and walk around living like animals. “shoot, shoot” people would tell me. “where are they?” “over there,” pointing in the general direction of some trees. what the hell am I shooting at? the level of incompetence really bothered me.
bravery
the entire gun team is behind a rock. “how come the god dam gun team isn’t opening up?” aint nobody shooting.
in rained
it rained so hard, I started to choke. I bent over to create an air pocket. in that moment it was filled with mosquitoes.
months
you got your hair filthy with dirt and grease and twigs. you aint washed in months.
didn’t clean ourselves
my hands got lacerated by elephant grass cuts. we didn’t get a chance to clean ourselves good and any cut would get infected. the first thing I’d do in the morning is make a fist and squeeze the puss out of my hands. I still got the scars. I started getting into it after three months, being a grunt and hunting.
the only way I could carry my rifle
I had jungle rot so bad on my hands that that the only way I could carry my rifle was to cradle it in the bend of my elbow. my hands were so sore and burning, my feet too.
quick exchanges of information
there were hospitals on the base but they were out of sight. he was really evil, he told me with a smirk, “we’re going to send you forward.” there had been some quick exchanges of information, [then] someone just yelled, “incoming” and I went to the nearest bunker. out of the silence and darkness somebody said, “where’s the new guy?” that’s a lot, that someone even bothered. who the hell was I?
that could be me
you hump all day long. a lot of guys couldn’t manage. it. I’d see people who dropped out, out of it, lying by the side of the trail, sweating, rucksack off. the normal procedure was to physically coerce the stragglers, sometimes they would slap or kick them. it wasn’t strong physical abuse, mostly calling names, [but] it was very ugly. I found it frightening because I knew that I was a marginal case,  that could be me. they take away their weapons and leave them. before dark they would come up. it doesn’t get any better.
why we doin this?
the first fire fight, the gun squad leader panicked. he didn’t know if either one of his guns opened up. he don’t know where to set up his guns at. the gunner was doing nothing but freezing. I yelled, “ammo, ammo.” there’s no ammo coming to me. they’re shooting behind these little rocks. [later] I had them breaking down and cleaning guns blindfolded. “why we doin this.” they asked. we took this hill called razor back about three times.  each time we lost men. there aint nothin on the stupid ass hill. it’s out in the middle of bullshit.
OTJ / their jokes
“don’t the new guys get broken in or something?” “yea, OJT.” “what’s OJT?” “on the job training.” I’m seeing guys lying around with rat bites. they run us off the choppers. who the hell are these guys yelling at me? they got no insignia. according to training I’d be an ammo humper for a while, then assistant gunner, then full fledged machine gunner. when I got to my unit, they said, “there’s your gun. put on your jungle boots because we’re going out.” he’s looking at me and looking at me and screams, “where did you get that shit?” the same time that he’s yelling at me, he’s pulling them off me like a crazy man. “the lieutenant told me to put them on.” “these are from KIA, killed in action. you’re not going to jinx our squad.” their jokes is about this kill and that kill.
“but we just got here”
they told me I was going to join the second marine division. luckily we didn’t get no incoming when we landed. so this is Da Nang. “well, if it’s like this, I am over.” then they said, “you will be transported by plane to Quang Tri..” they stuck some of us into trucks heading to Phu Bai. “that aint so bad.” at the battalion they said I was going to Fox Trot. next morning they carted us over to LZ Stud. then they told me I was going up to Khe Sanh. “you’re leaving now.” “but we just got here.”
I’m twenty one, I can’t believe they gave me a platoon
they give me a forty-five nut they didn’t have any magazines for it. they were young [but] something about their eyes made them absolutely different. I’m twenty one. I can’t believe they’re giving me a platoon. I’d forgotten everything, how to call in artillery. I went to bed because nobody really wanted to talk to me much. “we’re being overrun.” I get hit and go down. I just got there. this guy larry looks at me and says, “you’re all right,” and runs, just left me there. everything is on fire, people are screaming. total caos. you can see the helicopters way up in the sky. they threw me in the back and I just sail out of ther. at the quonset hut all the floors slope toward the middle to drains. it missed my spine. a lot of pilots were out there, with no arms or legs, or if they did they were like burnt out twigs.
they wanted the excitement
“that’s an ambush area. even I know that. they show you in the books. what the hell are you guys doing?” “just don’t worry about it,” they said. they hadn’t had a fire fight for a while and they wanted the excitement.
information
it wasn’t a question of good information, it was a question of getting out and kicking someone’s ass.
worst possible place / alexander the great / a little bit of dirt
ammo dump, fuel supply, air strip, big guns. the location of the hooch <barracks> was in one of the worst possible places. we were in line for any shell that over or under shot. I knew that the perimeter was not remotely safe. I looked at the guard bunkers and realized they weren’t even positioned in support of each other, weren’t staggered so fields of fire would cross. I’m sure alexender the great’s bowmen knew that. within our perimeter, there was a little village, at least half were vc. there were tunnels in and out. little did I know how easy it was to fuck up an M-16 with a little bit of dirt.
an old c-ration box
everybody is trigger happy at night. everybody.  the guy sees an old c-ration box. he pops three rounds at it. another guy across the compound, he pops three rounds. all of a sudden, the machine gunner, he decides, “I been sitting here two weeks and not pulled the trigger,” so he pulls the trigger. then you get fire control direction asking for illumination from the artillary battery. you got a full scale fire fight and there ain’t nothin out there.
the way I cried as a child
at about midnight the entire perimeter just exploded. we knew the difference between incoming and outgoing [and] there wasn’t a single fucking round of incoming that whole night. somebody on the guard tower thought he saw north vietnamese headed for the bunker. radio messages went out. a sheridan tank went zipping around and FIRED INTO [THE BUNKER.] nine of twelve died, heavy firing went on till five in the morning, shooting at nothing. we also knew that it happened around 2:30 or 3:30 and [it was] five o’clock before medical help even arrived. we were called into formation for a memorial service , listening to this chaplin about how, “these people didn’t die in vain.” that man would have been dead if we had been left alone. I haven’t gotten over [it] and don’t expect to. not just because of the insane waste of it all, but because of the way it was dealt with by authority. it’s the same as seeing people argue about the shape of the peace table in paris. it’s the same as calling annihilation, pacification. it’s the same as watergate. it’s the same as oil company profits. it’s called business as usual. that’s the way I cried as a child, I was crying because I was so angry.
didn’t check with a living soul
I didn’t really have a chance to be working with him, to teach him how to stay alive. he didn’t learn how to to do what you told him instantly. he was seventeen. it was like he was saying, “I’m alive, but what do I do? I’m dying.” our mortars up on the hill said they saw movement but didn’t check with a living soul. we had a patrol out. they fucked up brown and killed the lieutenant and a couple of other guys. brown was trying to wave the corpsmen off, but they flipped him over and he was booby trapped, killing him. they had on gas masks, [and] the glass in the eyepieces [blew out, ] blinding them instantly.
she brought
he came in with no arms and his legs were gone below the knee. he had these huge gaping holes. he’s recovering from the anesthesia. there were some other guys on the ward who knew him, and they were going nuts. if he even looked like he was coming around, I blasted him. it took him two days to die. it was a big thing to be a man in nam. he was going to do it up big, get drunk and get himself a prostitute. she brought a satchel charge with her into his armored carrier. she went home and it blew up.
aw, shit
one of the radiomen was a friend of mine and I went out with him. the next thing you know we’re taking rounds. I called the rear trying to get artillary. they say, “that’s friendlies.” I say, “hold the phone, and yell, “yo, you speak american?” I hear, “aw, shit” from the other side. but then – they don’t want to stop. you got both squads knowing that they’re shooting up americans and they’re still firing at one another. they had two KIA, and maybe four or five wounded. we had three guys wounded.
two generals
I sat there on the hill watching the south vietnamese airforce sweeping the south vietnamese army, because two generals got mad at each other.
I don’t care about your men / sixty thousand dollars
the fucking colonel says, “we’re not going to take you out any more. you have the worst record with tanks and I’m not wasting tanks. I don’t care what happens to your men.” we went out and we got hit. those tankers stood up on top of their tanks and watched us have it out. now this base camp was never hit. [we faked a ground assault], then I took four people and we fired across the base camp at the armored cavalry regiment. a few rounds clanking of the metal of those tanks and everything started blowing. in two and a half hours we must have burned up sixty thousand dollars worth of ammunition easy. we had barbed wire we could move and let the whores in. this intelligence guy digs a ditch between the bunkers and barbed wire, but he’s got no radio. we started peppering where he was with rounds. we brought the whores in and everytime he stuck his head up, we laid some more fire on him.
we had shit to work with
we worked twelve hour shifts, seven days a week. I didn’t even try to eat lunch. I would set my alarm for half an hour and sleep though my lunch hour. you always slept through the alarm. if it was really getting to us, the nurses would make believe they were corpsmen and the corpsmen would be nurses. I’d clean latrines [because I just didn’t want to look at another patient. the ward was divided into Gis and vietnamese. I hate to use the word gooks, but that’s what it amounted to. I could see how the vietnamese weren’t treated the same, even though they were civilians and they just got caught in the crossfire. you really got to resent going on that side of the ward. the richest nation in the world and we had shit to work with. we had suction at a guys bedside with these crummy little bottles the size of coke bottle. if they couldn’t breathe, in two minutes the bottle was full. there’s no place to empty it, so you dump it on the floor. I didn’t want to decide who would get medicine and who didn’t.
it was a crock
[hospital personnel] were told if we were overrun, we’d be lifted out. that was a crock of shit. I found out later that they never had any such evacuation plan.
phony reports
we were a mobile assault group, so we had helicopters at our disposal. I would tell command, “we’re going on a long range reconnaissance. we will be breaking squelch every two hours.” then we would go to Vung Tao or Saigon. I’d have some whore blowing me and I’d lean over and hit the squelch button a couple of times, then when we got back I’d file phony movement reports. there was one girl there who was twelve who was great.
we got to be ready
we were in monsoon season. monsoon rains didn’t start, they arrived. I was about to get something to eat when somebody told me I had to go fly. I jumped in the helicopter behind lieutenant carver, a bullshit artist bucking for command pilot. we sat there for half an hour. “there’s no way we’re going to take off in that rain,” I said, “any idiot can see that.” “nope, we got to be ready.” at that point lightening struck the helicopter behind us and seven rockets went off. one rocket came straight forward and there was this tremendous explosion. carver’s chest was torn away. tyler just just had one side of his face wiped away. part of his arm was gone. not many of the guys in the hospital wanted to talk to me. I got a purple heart out of the deal. I’ll never know why.
 you’re acting really weird
it was christmass eve and the truce was supposed to start at six o’clock. a ground unit in Delta was getting the living shit kicked out of them. there’s another radio operator, who got his ass shot, begging for help, that one word over and over, “help, help.” we had expended our ammunition and were really low on fuel. I didn’t realize it but I had missed the cabin communication switch. I dam near tore the control box down trying to get to that one switch. the crew chief says, “you’re acting really weird.” “didn’t you just hear? we left those guys to die, because of a truce nobody gives a rats ass about.” I saw that things weren’t right.

6. + 7. – indifference / on their own

less than a poodle
shit, if my folks had to send their little poodle, they would have cried more tears. but I’m supposed to go, because I’m a man.
now that you’re home
I went home straight to o’hare airport at chicago about three in the morning. everybody got up and said hello and went back to sleep. at 8:30 when my father left for work, he woke me to say, “listen, now that you’re home, when are you going to get a job?” I packed up and left and haven’t been back since.
miss america
miss america came to the hospital. I was on my way to work on the ward when she pulls up. we had a lot of patients then in really bad shape. in walks miss america, she bumps and grinds over to a patient and says, all breathy, “I bet you just never thought you’d see anything looking so pretty and smelling so sweet.” he just turned his head away and started crying. we threw the woman off the ward. word travels fast. at night as it got dark, we used to show a movie. as we passed the movie crowd, everybody stands up and starts clapping for us.
one step
I watched the astronauts landing on the moon. when I heard that fucking-bullshit phrase ‘one small step for man, a giant leap for mankind,” I thought, “come step with me, motherfucker.”
I don’t care where you’ve been
we had just come in off a fifteen mile search and destroy, and we go in to sleep. we [had just] got a new first sergeant. he was an artillery guy and didn’t want to come out in the field, but they were short of first sergeants. I hear someone tapping. “these tools have rust on them. I want [these] mortar holes drained. they bread mosquitoes.” I said, “you got to be out of your mind, it rains three times a day.” he leaves and we went back to sleep.  he comes back in half an hour later, he yells, “I don’t care where you’ve been, I want it done now!” he leaves and we go back to sleep. this time he comes back with the platoon sergeant, [who was looking for a promotion], who said, “do what [he] tells you.” they leave, we go back to sleep. then he comes back with my lieutenant, not a bad guy, just goofy, who says, “you better clean this up.” we say, “the sun is still burning bright, wait till it cools down.” we take care of the rust, but didn’t drain the holes. the sergeant comes back again, yells, “what about these holes?” it took two hours to drain those freaking holes, there was fifteen of them, two foot holes. you got to dig to the bottom and keep all the way down the hill with it. when we went out on patrol, he hardly ever went with us. he was no dam good. I’m out there with maybe seventy five pounds on my back. he comes up with a rucksack that’s almost empty. you have to know how to walk in the paddies, you might sink up to your neck. the sergeant falls in. he says, “help me out of here” and everybody starts laughing.
cake
I [had] been out for three days. I had been back and I had a note from the rear to report to Phu Bai for a big box my cousin had sent. I saw that box and I thought, “cake, hey. I better take this back up in the bush and turn some of my partners on to it.” I get ahold of it and thought, “this sucker’s light.” I popped it open. them dudes in the rear had the audacity to open that box, eat the entire cake, leave me a slice about half an inch thick. I picked up my 45 and went after them. I went and kicked in the door to the office, but nobody was there. I would have shot them. I’m out in the bush busting my behind. they’re back here on theirs giving thyself extra R+R time. then they got the nerve to ruin the only pleasure I got when my family sends me something. they made sure to send me right back to the bush. I finally got ahold of one of the guys. I broke his ankle for him. he tried running, but my friend tripped him. too many guys could remember their letter from home saying, “how did you like the package you got?”
same old
there were a lot of people I knew [who died] in vietnam, and these people were doing their fucking christmass shopping.
you owe us
when I got discharged, they had the nerve to tell me I owed them 600 dollars, that they overpaid me.
that was rehabilitation / people seemed to be
then on okinawa they took all our gear away and gave us new fatigues, all too big. put us in some big old barracks and wouldn’t let us leave, had us picking up cigarette butts for three months. that was “rehabilitation.” at my brother’s house I slept on the floor. I wanted to be a cop, but they said I was too small. people seemed to be messing with me all the time.
job interview
I’ve been in job interviews trying to get a lousy job and somebody looks at me like I’ve got two heads. one moment I was a king, the next I’m the dregs of society.
no special privileges
I had always heard that you got your old job back. they’d say, “what do you want to do, put somebody out of work? they’ve got families.” they told me I couldn’t have the seniority I’d built up until I was back a year. they fired me at eleven months. at the power company the doctor looked me over for tracks <drug needle marks>. I was on the waiting list at the telephone company, federal jobs, ups, the post office, as a corrections officer. I wound up taking a parking agent’s job. they said. “there’s no special privileges here just because you were in vietnam.” I had just walked through the door and this is what I get. I got a gypsy cab but the cops pulled my license. I was out on the street running numbers, some smoke, some coke. I had to take care of my family.

8. - back to “The World” – but never coming home

lucked out
I don’t know what this is but I can’t hold my hand steady. if you lucked out in vietnam, you got killed.
wife
my wife hears me screaming in the middle of the night.
afraid to sleep
we couldn’t sleep, even the patients. they wouldn’t talk. they were afraid to. [they didn’t want] to face whatever each one of them had to face when they closed their eyes.
a lot
a lot of guys committed suicide on the way to japan, or in japan, or in the VA. they had drugs smuggled into the ward to kill themselves. the spinal cord injuries, [explosions that] get your penis, your rectum. if he’s not a quadriplegic, he’s got a colostomy.
when
I was seventeen when I started with the marines. I’m twenty years old when I come into california.
when he woke up
that was the best christmass of my life, because I didn’t have anything to give anybody. when the kid woke up and saw his little stocking he knew he couldn’t open it, because he didn’t have any arms.
where are they?
seven out of ten casualties were traumatic amputees. who will it be? it was mentally draining. I thought, “boy, there’s going to be a lot of people walking around after this war with no feet,” but I still haven’t seen any. where are they?
I was surprised
we were talking and I happen to look over my shoulder. there’s another person in the room. I was really surprised, because I hadn’t heard anyone come in. then I realized I was looking at a mirror and hadn’t recognized my own reflection. now I had that look in my eyes.
where I felt at home
there was only one thing in my mind. get back to vietnam where I felt at home. some guys they had to lock up because they wouldn’t leave, I wanted to die there. all my friends had died there.
right before my eyes
there were a lot of guys who were really disturbed. on the flight to japan I saw this guy laying on a stretcher with a blanket up to his chin. he’s got a beard. I said, “how did you talk them into letting you grow a beard?” the guy changed right before my eyes. he started raving. “they want to shave my beard off. they keep giving me these shots. I don’t like them.” he got louder and louder. under the blanket he was handcuffed, strapped down with leather belts with padlocks. the guy is doing a good job trying to get out.
in actuality
I could see myself fighting, when in actuality [I’m] sitting in the VA hospital. how can they bring me back to a world where I don’t know what they’re talking about? I’m sitting in a classroom and my mind clicked and I’m back in nam. I wanted to kill this man. they just threw us back into a place that we were untrained to live in. it took me years.
eventually
I went almost eight years without any trouble. [then I lost a patient.] by may I was unable to work, to get out of bed. I would forget to buy food, could barely talk. eventually I did try to kill myself.
terribly shy
I would just drink until I was senseless. I was terribly shy with women.
what’s wrong?
you don’t always fire in anger. that I turned my mind off to it scared me later. you’re not supposed to be able to do that. what’s wrong with me.
and never was again
I stayed angry almost all the time I was there and I brought that anger back with me. I watched what happened to lawrence from brooklyn with love beads and wire rimmed glasses. he was happy and naïve, everybody’s teddy bear. he wasn’t into dope, he was [passed that], was just very mellowed out. he was the guy changing the half dozen records at the club, tended bar, being cooperative and helpful and funny. we had a heavy ground attack. dawn came, gun smoke in the air, strange smells and fading fire, a few grenades popping off still. they were coming out of the vagueness, blackened, dirty, crazy. lawrence came first. his eyes were what I saw first. what I saw was horror. the guy who came back that morning was not the guy who went out, and he never was again. he didn’t talk much for over a week. his eyes were masked, dull, seemed to sit deeper in his skull.
to this day
sometimes at night you’d just be drifting off and all of a sudden they’d fire artillery. the back muscles are so spasmodic that they actually lift you up. your heart would be going, and you’d get pissed. the noise drove you crazy. to this day, I hear loud noises and I get pissed. I want to hit something.
crouched down behind the seat
the deer hunter was the first vietnam movie I have seen. I’m serious, I came apart. I crouched down behind the seat and crawled up the aisle. I didn’t know that it was a movie any more. I used to be a cop. in a shoot out, it was a fire fight for me. people said, “man, you’re brutal. what’s wrong?” I arrested people and I was beating them up.
my turn
when it was my turn, I got sick a week before. dysentery, and I lost fifteen pounds. I was getting more and more anxious. I couldn’t eat. I couldn’t even swallow. I had a hard time breathing. at the time I didn’t think it was connected to going home. my dad had this toaster that was touchy. you had to drop the english muffin in just right. I’d slam them in. I was bullshit. I was never like that before. I went to the super market. in nam you get in the habit of watching everybody all the time. I couldn’t stay because I couldn’t keep an eye on everybody. when you’re not around traffic, you lose the ability to judge traffic. I’d either wait until there was no cars or just run like hell.
the phone booth triggered it all
I stepped into a phone booth a few blocks away. [when I dialed] the phone started dialing itself. I tried again and got some garbled recording. the phone started spitting [coins] back at me. I see aford van across the street with the side door cracked open just a bit. I was convinced I was on Candid Camera. I ripped the receiver off the phone and started beating the machine. pried the dial off. I started breaking the glass with different parts of my body. I realized then it was me. I was all fucked up. I freaked out, totally paranoid. the thing with the phone booth triggered it all.
YO-YO
I thought, “they don’t send asshole kids like me, they must send grown up guys.” they always called us men, marines or troopers. but during my first fire fight I was giggling. “man, did you see his head fly off?” nobody in the unit was over twenty one. ambush was fun. it’s supposed to be professional, but it’s not. I loved flying helicopters. [you could] touch clouds. I had this yo-yo. I’d take it out and start doing walk-the-dog. we had one officer who just leaped up in the middle of a fire fight and said, “it’s just kids and they’re all fucking dying. just kids, just kids.” they had to take him away.
to the point of fright
helicopters were coming in and [someone] yells, “anyone who has R+R coming, jump on. then we went to to hong kong. I hadn’t seen civilized life in seven months. I was totally shocked to the point of fright.
more and more
because he was in the process of having a nervous breakdown, he was dressing himself like he was getting ready for inspection. we didn’t realize it at first, but john couldn’t bear to look at the patient. just by looking at him you could tell he was in another world. he just sat there at the desk [after we took over the patient.] he’d lost a lot of patients. all his friends were surgeons, they don’t recognize mental illness because you can’t see it. they knew he wasn’t eating, staying in his room, more and more reclusive. he was taken out of the there a little after that and sent home.
an alternative that I hadn’t considered
“I’m sending you to saigon for your last three months. you are nuts.” he took all the charges against me and ripped them up. I wanted to stay and get back at all the VC for all my friends. but I suddenly had a chance to stay alive, an alternative that I hadn’t considered.
my chance to be alone was gone
the captain appeared and said, “can I speak to you? there isn’t any real way for me to say this. your mother died today.” I was going to have to take care of two teenagers. at twenty six. my chance to be alone was gone. if [these guys] were going to miss me nearly as much as I was going to miss them, I didn’t want to deal with it. I didn’t sleep. I looked at the flares. on the flight home, I sat next to a chaplin. he was a real asshole. he’d been in saigon or somewhere, and spent half the flight talking about parties he’s been to. I stood on the same hillside where I had said goodbye to my mother.
this ambulance driver was crazy enough
I don’t know how we got into it. we started looking at the album and I flipped out, started throwing shit everywhere. I beat my wife over the head with a full quart bottle of beer. they called the cops. they had their weapons out but didn’t shoot. I had a handful of butcher knives in each hand. this ambulance driver was crazy enough to come in there. I said, “shit, I’ll go with you.”
what have I done?
a big chopper came and dropped us on the flight deck of the new orleans. we looked back at the land where we spent a year. you were real glad you were you, but people you had hung around with were gone, gone forever. [at home] it felt so good to [just] look in their faces. after three or four days I was climbing the walls. in the old neighborhood nothing had changed, civilian life is bullshit. you see politicians lying to you, you want to throw up. when we were out there I thought, “if I ever get back, I’ll tear the place apart, it’ll be my oyster, nothing will stop me.” here it is going on twelve years later and what have i done?
functional but / bad things
I cried from 8:30 until 5:00. I was crying for everything. there was no solace anywhere. rebecca, who I [later] married, said when I came back I was dead from the neck down. functional, but dead. knowing I was living in a berserk culture. I don’t care if we both have M-16s and were on the front, or if we both have checkbooks in our hands and it’s back home. the world is so filled with assholes. I get so angry when I realize that people are doing bad things with awareness.
lots of sick crews out there
basically I enjoyed vietnam. when I came back, I was doing stick ups. it wasn’t the money. there’s lots of sick crews out there, shot gun teams doing this stuff, marines like me. we’d set up a drug deal in which there were no drugs, we play cops and take the money. I’m sure in the south they’re still american. I would love to see a foreign  army come to this country and blow some people away just to straighten them out.
you fuckers
like going kicking pregnant women in the stomach and blowing babies away when mama san is rocking them to sleep. you fuckers want me to kill somebody, I’ll kill somebody.